Access Admin BEFORE domain name propogates?

[DFWeb]

I am brand spankin new to soholaunch and may I say....I am in love!

Pretty easily found my way around most features, but was wondering... is there a way to login to the admin area before the domain name propogates?

I set up a new hosting account without a domain name because I already have one and will change the name servers later. Unfortunately, when installing via fantastico I only had the option to enter a domain NAME for the install. So can't seem to figure out how to access soholaunch on this account.

Thanks!

[Cameron Allen]

I am brand spankin new to soholaunch and may I say....I am in love!

Pretty easily found my way around most features, but was wondering... is there a way to login to the admin area before the domain name propogates?

I set up a new hosting account without a domain name because I already have one and will change the name servers later. Unfortunately, when installing via fantastico I only had the option to enter a domain NAME for the install. So can't seem to figure out how to access soholaunch on this account.

Thanks!

Yes, you can, as long as your server httpd.conf is pointed correctly, or if you have setup the domain in cpanel. This is a fairly easy process, even for beginners.

On your local P.C. (not your server) go into windows explorer. Go into the Windows/system32/drivers/etc/ directory, and open a file called Hosts . You will notice that Hosts has no extension, but you can open it up in notepad or ultraedit. Open it up with your choice editor. The file should look like this:


# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host


After you open this file you need to add an entry. To do this you will need the IP that the domain is on, and the domain name. At the bottem of the file add your ip then domain name, but do not insert the # before the entry (this comments the entry out). For example:

I just added the domain fluffybunnies.com to my server. My server IP is 111.111.111.11 To access fluffy bunnies on my server before it resolves I would add the following entry to the Hosts file.

111.111.111 fluffybunnies.com # My new website!!! I love bunnies!

The Hosts file would look like this:


#
# This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
# space.
#
# Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

111.111.111 fluffybunnies.com #My New bunny Website!!!



Let the insta-propogation begin! ;)

[DFWeb]

Thanks so much. I edited the file on my computer. Now what is the address to soho?

would it be like http://65.18.43.196/~user/sohoadmin?

[Cameron Allen]

You need to add just the domain name, and the IP of the server that the domain is on. If I recently installed a copy of soholaunch on cars.com which is on my server, and wanted to access it before It propogated, all I would add to the Hosts file is : cars.com 123.123.123
Of course 123.123.123 would be the ip of the server that I installed soholaunch on.

Ok, so now that I have added the above to the hosts file, I want to login to soholaunch. To do this I would open up internet explorer and type in the following url: http://cars.com/sohoadmin
You just type in the domain name as it will appear after it propogates. Of course only your computer will point to the site before it propogates, as you only made the changes on your local pc.

I hope this clears up the matter =).

[DFWeb]

As I said, I am in love!

[primal]

Hi

I have the same problem as DFWeb and I have followed the instruction above to the letter but for some unkown reason it didn't work. Does anyone have any other fixes for this?

I have a shared IP until the site propagates and I have added the shared IP as well as both the primary and secondary IP numbers that the site will propagate to and I still cannot gain access to the admin area.

When I go to http://primal-media.co.uk/sohoadmin/ the address goes to http://primal-media.co.uk/sohoadmin/index.php as I would expect it to do but then gives me a 404 error or a php script error such as:

PHP script /home/primal/public_html/sohoadmin/index.php is protected by SourceGuardian and requires file ixed.lin.4.3.10.pxp.
Please read SourceGuardian protected scripts manual.

I must admit I do not understand this error and if anyone can point me in the right direction I would be most grateful.

Hosts file currently looks like this:

# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host
206.123.109.146 primal-media.co.uk # primal
206.123.109.147 primal-media.co.uk # primal
I really hope I do not have to wait for the domain to resolve as I am basically going to be marking time when I could be busy learning this.

By the way GREAT software from what I can see so far.

[primal]

Think I have resolved the problem by uploading the missing file ixed.lin.4.3.10.pxp to the top level ixed folder and also a copy to admin ixed folder too.

hope this helps someone else too. I can now see the login screen. Yipee!

[kellyc]

HI:

I am really new to soholaunch and not very familiar with it or, for that matter with php, so I am a little baffled about how I move my current accounts to new hosting and convert their sites to soholaunch with no downtime.

My hosting company assigns shared IP's to my new accounts, and the above method of changing the host file, doesn't seem to work with shared IPs

So, the way I see it, I have 2 options:

Option 1: Rebuild the site in soholaunch prior to moving the nameservers
I can't figure out how to do this with shared nameservers.

For example, I would like move piratepopcorn.com. The new, temporary account is here: http://64.92.163.74/~eric/; when i try to log-in to http://64.92.163.74/~eric/soholaunch/, I get redirected to piratepopcorn.com/soholaunch/index.php and I get an error.

Changing the host file to this, doesn't work:
64.92.163.74/~eric/ www.piratepopcorn.com

Option 1: Move the old html site to the new server and build the new site in soholaunch in the background, then once all the new pages are built, delete the old html site and launch the new soholaunch version of it.
Since soholaunch auto-installs into the main directory, I'm concern that soholaunch will interfere with the html pages. Can I delete index.php in the www/ directory? will that interfere with my ability to create a home page in soholaunch? How will I reinstall the home page afterward?


Am i missing something? I'm thinking that there must be an easier solution that I'm just not familiar with.

Thanks!

Kelly

[kellyc]

HI:

Is there anyone that can answer my question? It has come up with a lot of my clients and I would really like to find a solution to be able to allow them access to their site before the domain propogates - on a shared IP.

Thanks!

Kelly

[Joe Lain]

HI:

I am really new to soholaunch and not very familiar with it or, for that matter with php, so I am a little baffled about how I move my current accounts to new hosting and convert their sites to soholaunch with no downtime.

My hosting company assigns shared IP's to my new accounts, and the above method of changing the host file, doesn't seem to work with shared IPs

So, the way I see it, I have 2 options:

Option 1: Rebuild the site in soholaunch prior to moving the nameservers
I can't figure out how to do this with shared nameservers.

For example, I would like move piratepopcorn.com. The new, temporary account is here: http://64.92.163.74/~eric/; when i try to log-in to http://64.92.163.74/~eric/soholaunch/, I get redirected to piratepopcorn.com/soholaunch/index.php and I get an error.

Changing the host file to this, doesn't work:
64.92.163.74/~eric/ www.piratepopcorn.com

Option 1: Move the old html site to the new server and build the new site in soholaunch in the background, then once all the new pages are built, delete the old html site and launch the new soholaunch version of it.
Since soholaunch auto-installs into the main directory, I'm concern that soholaunch will interfere with the html pages. Can I delete index.php in the www/ directory? will that interfere with my ability to create a home page in soholaunch? How will I reinstall the home page afterward?


Am i missing something? I'm thinking that there must be an easier solution that I'm just not familiar with.

Thanks!

Kelly

Hi Kelly,

A way to get around working with CPannel is to install Soholaunch on a different domain name, or on a sub domain. This needs to be in it's own document root(public_html). Build the site on the new sub domain, and we can eigther redirect piratepopcorn.com to the new sub domain, or move the site built with Soholaunch to the correct site's folder.

[Ruben]

im having allmost the same problem, changing the HOSTS file, works fine with me and i can log into the sohoadmin before the domain is active, but..... im not able to get any templates to work.

<SCRIPT language=Javascript>
window.focus();
</SCRIPT>

is the only thing i see when going to http://mydomain.com/

help me out here.

[Ruben]

chmod a+rw the http folder seem to help a lot after assigning the right templates to the pages again.

[logic]

So, I accessed mine via ##.##.###.##/~logic/sohoadmin/ and set everything up. The first time I accessed it, it said "www.####.com did not resolve, your domain name has been temporarily changed to ##.##.###.##/~logic/ until it resolves. I then tried changing my hosts file so that I could make sure everything was going to work properly once I changed over my domain name servers. I was dissapointed to see that all of the links and images still had full length URLs with ##.##.###.##/~logic/ at the beginning. What do I need to change in my install once the domain name servers have been updated to ensure that the links etc. have the correct address?

[lwyau]

Add a record on UDT_Content_Search_Replace database to replace "##.##.###.##/~logic/" with null.

Next time, "resolve" your domain name on your PC by adding two lines in windows/systems32/drivers/etc/hosts file like this:

999.999.999.999 ####.com
999.999.999.999 www.####.com

where 999.999.999.999 is the ip adress of your website. You'll be able to access your site with ####.com before the domain resolves. Just make sure to delete those two lines in hosts file after the domain resolves.

[logic]

Thanks for replying to my question, unfortunately the suggestion you offered caused me more grief than good... that is until I figured out the search and replace is live not permanent so I could delete that record and everything went back to working.

Here's what it did do....
Instead of the links and images being at http://##.##.###.##/~logic/images/imagename.gif, now it's trying to resolve them at http:///images/imagename.gif, which obviously doesn't work.

Here's what it didn't do...
The title bar in my admin tool still shows ##.##.###.##/~logic/soho... instead of the domain like it's supposed to even though I got to the admin section by typing www.####.com/sohoadmin.

Here's what else it didn't do...
All new image references I put in STILL have absolute URLs back to ##.##.###.##/~logic/images/imagename.gif.

Can you (or anyone else) help!? I'd really like all future image posts, etc. to use the domain name instead of this gross addressing scheme.

Drew @ Logic

[lwyau]

Sorry, I should have said to replace "http://##.##.###.##/~logic/" with null. You do need to experiment until it works, and you may need to add multiple records as well. An overview knowledge of HTML here doesn't hurt, either.

The main issue here is that you installed Soho on the domain ##.##.###.##/~logic/ instead of the regular domain name. To do it right, take a Soho backup first, reinstall Soho on your regular domain, then import the backup via Soho admin. After al these, you MAY need to change all image references manually just the same.

[logic]

So apparently SOHOLaunch Admin tries to resolve the domain name from the server. Magically after the domain name started resolving, a little message showed up that said "######.com is now resolving, all references will be changed" or something to that effect. And everything was happy ever after...

[lwyau]

That's good news!

[jorujuja]

I have the same problem too. I already changed the 'hosts' file, still I can't get even to the login page when I try to access: http://dabsko.com/sohoadmin/.

[Sammys treasurebox]

My Fiance and I are trying to build a webpage for a business that we are opening but can't seem to figure out the mapping of SOHO..it's almost as if we are only allowed to build a simple site and have it direct customers to another site..If I am wrong please let me know..I watched the tutorials but still couldn't make heads or tails of it..Any information would be greatly appreciated

[Leblanc]

#
# For example:
#
# 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

111.111.111 fluffybunnies.com #My New bunny Website!!!

---------

Can someone help. I have made a change similar to above but it didn't work for me and is not needed.

Now I can't access the site anymore.

I set up new hosting for a website through cpanel

eg:

111.111.111/~website

but now when I try to view the work done on the above address it does not connect because of changes made to my WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file as described above.

I have removed the changes to that file so that it is back to default settings. What do I have to do now to have my browser connect to the site on my hosting that I'm working on example 111.111.111/~website

Thanks

[bestdom]

How do I setup soho the first time?

How do I access SohoADmin area when www.domain/sohoadmin does not access it?

Thank you.

[lwyau]

Do you want to access sohoadmin before your domain get resolved?

[pioneerVicki]

I will be rebuilding my site thegemlovers.com in Soho & as it could be a week before I can re-direct I wanted to at least get my templet & pages done. I've followed the advice of Cameroon & have my login come up ok. My problem is when I log in a get an 'error 404 File not found' message come up. Is there anything I can do about it?

[dresswell]

I would say if you went to http://your site.com/sohoadmin/index.php
That the login window should come up.
If not you may not have soho installed right.
If you get to your sohoadmin login page.
you will see on the left resolve dns.
To use this sitebuilder before this domain name resolves, download and run resolvedomain.vbs. resolvedomain.vbs is a script that adds a DNS record to your local computer so that your site.com resolves to xx.xx.xxx.xx, which is your server's I.P. address.

After running the script you will be able to access this site's website builder. If
your site.com is a live site on a different server, you will be able to access both the live site and this site.
- use the URL: http://www.your site.com ( with www ) to access this site.
- use the URL: http://your site.com ( no www) to access the live site.

To Use This Script:
1) Click the link below to download resolvedomain.vbs.
2) Save the file anywhere on your computer.
3) Double-click resolvedomain.vbs to run the file.

To Remove Entry After Domain Resolves:
1) Click the link below to download resolvedomain.vbs.
2) Save the file anywhere on your computer.
3) Running resolvedomain.vbs a second time, removes the added dns entry.
dresswell

[pioneerVicki]

It appears the program has installed properly as now typing in http://thegemlovers.com/sohoadmin/index.php brings up a bright blue page with a box in the middle that says 'Please log-in to manage your web site.' The system requirements etc I've checked & everything is ok. After that you've lost me. I'm afraid I can't see any link anyway (or any mention for that matter) for resolvedomain.vbs. Where are you hiding the link?

Yes my site is live on a different server. (I'm still getting it ok on my computer as well). I hope to redirect soon; but I'm still trying to get the transfer code I need from my present server.

[dresswell]

On the left of the login box
Add/Remove DNS Entry
dresswell

[pioneerVicki]

On the left of my log in box this is what it says:-

Please log-in to manage your website
System Requirements
Browser settings
Email my login info to me

Previously I checked the browerser setting & they were as directed, didn't need to change anything. Clicking the email also brings up another 404 error message. No add/remove DNS setting on my page; unless it's hiding in the brower settings somewhere.

[dresswell]

It sounds like you are using a older verision of soho.
Open your sohoadmin by logging in.
Look at the lower right of the screen.
The number there is your soho verision.
Should be v4.9.2 r17
If not you should update it.
If your host is running phpsuexec you should be
fine to update. if not you will want to go to
Webmaster > Software Updates >
Technical diagnostic info (for Geeks)
There you will see if you are running phpsuexec.
If you are then go to update.
If not check yes to
chmod to 777 before updating?
dresswell

[pioneerVicki]

'There's a hole in my bucket dear Liza, dear Liza, there's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza a hole,'
If a could log-in to my sohoadmin, I wouldn't be posting this on the forum. I can't get in; I get a 404 error message after I type my name, & code & hit login.
That's why I've posted my queries here.

[lwyau]

'There's a hole in my bucket dear Liza, dear Liza, there's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza a hole,'
If a could log-in to my sohoadmin, I wouldn't be posting this on the forum. I can't get in; I get a 404 error message after I type my name, & code & hit login.
That's why I've posted my queries here.
You added the folloiwing line to your hosts file, correct?

999.999.999.999 yourdomain.com

Add another one that says

999.999.999.999 www.yourdomain.com

[pioneerVicki]

I carefully followed the instructions earlier Cameron gave & changed the IP address. That brought the login info up typing in the site's address.

[lwyau]

I carefully followed the instructions earlier Cameron gave & changed the IP address. That brought the login info up typing in the site's address.
You are referring to the first post in this thread by Cameron, correct?

Well, that post was in 2004. Since then, soho has opted to force "www." as the front part of the domain name in order to avoid some issues. If you look carefully, you will see soho switches to "www.yourdomain.com/sohoadmin/..." even if you started with "yourdomain.com/sohoadmin/..."

You therefore need the additional entry for "www.yourdomain.com" in your hosts file.

[pioneerVicki]

Yes, I have now changed the file & added www. to the name. This has caused quite a change when I try & login. Now instead of my partly coloured screen I get a totally white screen with this on it:-
381
Email my login info to me
Username:
Password:
Login

0

When I type in my username & password & login.........nothing happens.

[jacky1982]

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[lwyau]

Yes, I have now changed the file & added www. to the name. This has caused quite a change when I try & login. Now instead of my partly coloured screen I get a totally white screen with this on it:-
381
Email my login info to me
Username:
Password:
Login

0

When I type in my username & password & login.........nothing happens.
Try holding down the Ctrl key when clicking on the "login >>" button. You may have the pop-up blocker active on your browser and holding down Ctrl key usually defeats it.

[pioneerVicki]

I am now in...............and working on site..........great!

[jonnadee]

Has any one else had a problem with saving the hosts file. I have Vista and I don't know if that's the problem, but when I edit the file and then try to save it, I get an error message. Cannot create the file. So of course it doesn't save my changes. Appreciate any help.


Fixed it - I had to go in and reset the permissions to give myself full permissions.